There were many! The one that still sticks out in mind was the day I got baptized...The tub was at the old Greenacre Assembly hall in Sydney, Australia. As I walked down the steps into the tub, it was so slippery - I slipped in front of everyone - Swore like a trooper and then they had to drown me twice. Guess the devil had his hooks into me back then. I'm still surprised the baptisimal water didn't burn like fire. lol
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WHAT ARE YOUR MOST VIVID, ODD, or FUNNY Memories of Conventions and Assemblies of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Balaamsass inshare with us memories of the bizarre, funny, strange, what you hated, what you miss...we all have them.
(question..why the big to do between terms- convention and assembly .
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mother rejects her son
by Aussie Oz inhad a phone call from my son today.... he rang his jw mother to give her some news and found out the school his little half siblings go to was having an end of year play.
he was pretty excited apparently and asked if he could come along and this is how it went.... "no, it is for family.
for our family not for children who never speak or visit us.".
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Branded Rebel
Sadly, most of them are that way - heartless, cruel and blind to the basic human needs of others. They certainly don't practice what they preach. I hope the little boy will be all right. He don't need a mother like that. My own brother treats me like that even before I left the religion. I never believed the religion divided families until I experienced it for myself. Hugs to your little man.
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Branded Rebel
Do they still do door knocks to invite the general public to them? I know they used to in OZ.
My mum went to one earlier in the year.
They released a dvd aimed at kids. Mum gave me a copy for my daughter. I tried to keep an open mind and let my daughter decide. It made my blood boil when the dvd was one sided (as are most of their things) and encouraged kids (in my opinion as a parent) to be intolerant of other kid's feelings. I drew the line when the cartoon mother encouraged her son to throw away a toy his friend gave him at school. The kid listened and threw it in the bin! Now how would the kid who owned the toy view JW's if that toy was the kid's favourite? Kids share things all the time - it's part of learning social skills. No wonder growing up in a JW hosehold makes kids into brain dead social retards. The DVD in question was titled 'Listen, Obey and be Blessed' = seriousy???
The mother in the dvd should have encouraged her kid to give the toy back to the other child and at the very least explain why he couldn't play with it to his friend...That's just my 2c on the matter.
Thank goodness I was there with my child to watch that so I could explain to her that this was NOT the way to treat a friend's belongings, or a friend's feelings.
Way to go WT for breeding a new generation of intolerant human beings who are mindless to the feelings of others who do not share your views. Real 'loving' of you.
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Good god! Don't ever 'settle' for a partner if you're lonely! You might trick yourself into being happy until one day you wake up and realise you don't love your spouse or vice versa. There has to be that spark - chemisrty. If that ain't there, then you're both better off being good friends. It's funny but true, the right one will come along when you least expect it - yeah, heard that a million times before... If you want something to happen, you have to go out and make it happen. You can't expect love to find you without putting yourself out there first.
You do have to know what you want. I've tried dating sites like eharmony, flirt, facebook's 'are you interested' and even a couple of 'adult' ones like lushstories and benaughty... Um... yeah... lets just say that the last two were eye openers as to a lot of things related to the opposite sex.
I've been on a few dates since becomming single and I had never 'dated' before. It was scary. But the guys I met up with for a coffee were a little wierd, so I was glad it was only for coffee. Two out of the four were gentlemen and paid for the coffee/drinks which was nice. I never had that before. (my ex was so cheap he used to 'stay in' for coffee instead of 'going out') One guy and I had a really good chat with - mostly about our kids, but there was no chemistry. Another guy was really rude and chewed gum on our date. He had no manners what-so-ever, but at least he picked up the tab. Then the third guy turned up for our coffee date 40 minutes late! Then the last guy I met up with, I decided to go dutch and didn't really care anymore. We're still mates, and keep in contact but nothing romantic there. I won't even go into the numerous online chats and phone relationships with guys... There are a load of scammers out there to avoid - believe me.
Sometimes it's ok to be single - especially if you like your space, but it's also really nice to have someone to cuddle up to too. Having been previously married, I now know what I'm looking for and I won't be settling again for a partner who is less than what I deserve. I now know that I do deserve to be loved and I'm not ashamed anymore to express how I want to be loved and deserve to be loved. It's not being picky, it's being honest with yourself. All the guys I dated were 'nice guys' but they weren't for me. I didn't see myself waking up with them 20-30 years from now or growing old with them.
I'm still keeping my options open by still trying. Who knows...maybe the right guy for me is currently married and hasn't left his wife yet... or he's sinlge and still out there, and I haven't put myself in a position to be found. You have to be brave and put yourself out there.
Nobody deserves to be beaten, put down or made the butt of their partners jokes. That's not love. Every woman deserves to be loved and cherrished, adored and cared for - even when PMS is a bitch and working against our every good intention. Finding a man who understands that this is how every woman is because of the human condition, is the hard part. But there are good guys out there who do understand that and if you're lucky enough to find one, he is a rare gem who should also be loved and cherrished, adored and cared for too. That's true love and is a rare find.
You can't unconditionally love someone if they don't undonsitoinally love you back. It has to swing both ways. Just sayin'.
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Little off topic, but still on target.....has anybody thought about dating members on this site?
Just a thought, if there are singles... Connections people.... *wink*
I'm new here and am still getting used to the ropes. If there is a link, hey - that would be cool. Or I guess we could always show a vote -
Raise your hand if you're single and available to date???
(In case you can't see... I have two hands held high for this vote lol) *grin*
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You Won't be Resurrected.
by smmcroberts ini'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but if you die prior to armageddon you won't be resurrected.
please read my latest blog article to find out why this is so according to the watchtower beliefs.. http://smmcroberts.net/blog/you-wont-be-resurrected/.
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I understood that those who die AT Armageddon won't get a resurection because they would have died by God's own hand.
I always understood that the scripture (can't remember where, but it's in the bible) that says 'All those in the memorial tombs will hear his voice and come out,' (I think it's in Job) refer to the fact that you WILL be resurected if you die BEFORE Armageddon...
So, am I to believe that a clone of my loved ones is going to come back in their place? Damn! And here I was expecting a younger, healthier version. Oh well - might as well throw out the shoebox with all the young pictures of when my grandparents and parents were 30 or so I'd be able to recognise them, since I never knew them when I was young - I hadn't come into existence at that point of their prime. They are going to be totally useless to me now...
Seriously?
Where does some of this warped thinking come from? Who gives a rats about the WT. The bible is the only truth and I don't recall reading anything about transporters and molecular reconstruction when Lazarus was resurected by Jesus. That account as well as others in the bible should prove it can be done and that it's even possible for those resurected to marry (that is only my speculation of the human condition). The man Lazarus, who died, came back - memory in tact, looking the same, walking the same and I also can assume he went on to live out the rest of his natural life...The scriptures don't say otherwise.
I don't mean to be rude, but I fail to grasp your line of reasoning based on what little bible knowledge I have. What you're saying does not ring true.
Example being this:
I was at a meeting where we were told to listen and believe everything the brother on the platform said - even if it went against what we already knew to be the truth. I got smart and raised a stupid question:- If you told us to go out and preach that the devil is our saviour, and I didn't do it, would I be branded as being disobedient, even though preaching that lie is a direct insult to Jehovah and Jesus Christ???
The reply I got was - Yes, you would be disobedient and working against holy spirit because the brothers on the platform are ordained by God and are his spokes person/s...
Um, that was the first time I realized that satan had worked his way into the congregations. I'm not the type of sheep that would willingly throw myself into the arms of a wolf, unlike many other gulliable 'sheep' in the congregation. Thus my branding of a rebel and the beginning of me leaving the org.
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Schizophrenia
by frankiespeakin inwhile doing some personal research on the subject i came across this.
basically in the jungian world it is discribed as an overpowering of ego by the unconsciousness.
"if the human race survives, future men will, i suspect, look back on our enlightened epoch as a veritable age of darkness... they will see that what was considered 'schizophrenic' was one of the forms in which, often through quite ordinary people, the light began to break into our all-too-closed minds.".
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I know this might sound heartless to most people, but after having lived with my ex husband and suffered at his abusive hand when he would drink and get drunk, thereby cancelling out his Schitz Meds or refuse to take his meds; I could not put myself through that again if our daughter developed the condition. I would put her in the care of professionals. She is my only child and I love her dearly, but I'm not about to be stabbed, bashed, kicked and abused in my own home by a member of my own family or someone elses. Even if they have mental health issues. Half the crimes committed are from people who are violent mental health patients. They even use that as an excuse to get away with murder.
My ex was diagnosed with the condition a couple of years before we married and I did as much research as I could on the matter to understand what I would be dealing with because I loved him. I found out that most people with the condition are non-violent people and have timid/shy personalities who will shy away from an arguement rather than getting into one. That might be well and true - in theory... When my ex was medicated, he would still talk to himself and be vacant within himself. When he wasn't on the meds or something triggered him even while he was taking them, he would lash out. It was a very hurtful thing to experience watching someone you love disappear and there was nothing you could do to bring them back. I couldn't even reason with him. There was no logic. I could never believe anything he said.
I understand that living with someone with the condition is a heart breaking nightmare that lingers and you can never wake up from it, but living in fear of them or walking on eggshels in your own home is far worse. When my husband and I split up I helped him pack! I was glad he left us because 'the voices told him to'.... Later I found out he left because those voices were telling him to kill and harm us. During the course of our 2 year marriage, he would repeated tell me he didn't love me and married me because the voices told him to, but he didn't love me. No matter how much you love someone, if they have the Schitz, and tell you they don't love you, there is nothing you can do to save them. Medication only works if they own the fact that they are ill and need it which maybe 1 sufferer in 100 will realize. But if the person is nasty and a liar AND they have the Schitz, I've learned that's a tripple deadly whammy - despite all the medical studies and fluff about sufferers. They are trying not to scare you about the illness - but infact, it one scary as hell illness that I wouldn't wish on my worst enemy.
Nuthouse Escapee: I'm not strong enough to live through hell again. Once bitten, twice shy. I think anyone who battles on with a family member who has the illness is very brave. It's not easy to cope with and is very emotionally draining. My hat goes off to you.
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Tom Cruise awakening to Scientology, or will "special dispensation" keep him in?
by King Solomon inhttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2211469/is-tom-cruise-finally-seeing-light-scientology.html.
scientology's most famous adherent, tom cruise, is believed to be receiving special dispensation to see his daughter, suri, six, after ex-wife katie holmes withdrew herself and their daughter from the membership.
normally members are forbidden from contacting ex-partners who leave the 60-year-old cult.
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Branded Rebel
Instead of blaming the women he's been married to and then divorced from, perhaps he ought to be annalyzing his own behaviour and own his own issues instead of passing the buck to the women who are now in happy relationships... I'm sorry, but that's the way I see it. His religion has screwed him up and he's not good for anyone now unless he gets out and stops getting brainwashed. The women he was with were all smart, beautiful and intellegent. They got away from Tom because they were smart and didn't need the abuse they received from the church.
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mafia-like chasing
by happy-n-alive inso, i have missed 4 sunday meetings now for different reasons mainly fatigue cause i'm still in school and i'm up late almost everynight.
anyways..the lady i study with decides to harass the house with relentless phone calls disturbing my mum (who doesnt like jws) for the last 3 days.
she finally got through to me today because she called super early (before 7).
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You're welcome, Happy and Alive :) Wish you all the best with whatever you chose. Remember, it has to be your choice and not the choice of others. Don't forget to listen to your gut instincts. Peace! <3
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mafia-like chasing
by happy-n-alive inso, i have missed 4 sunday meetings now for different reasons mainly fatigue cause i'm still in school and i'm up late almost everynight.
anyways..the lady i study with decides to harass the house with relentless phone calls disturbing my mum (who doesnt like jws) for the last 3 days.
she finally got through to me today because she called super early (before 7).
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Oh yeah, they do that at mid week meetings - openly discuss their bible studies with the congregation in the hopes it will encourage others. In my opinion, all it is, is a puffed up way they blow their horn and make others feel inferior. I totally get the flood of phone calls. They were affraid to lose a bible study. If you're having doubts or concerns while you're studying with them, don't follow through and get baptized. You'll regret it and be royally screwed. They'll own you then. All the concern they have for you now while your studying will drop off the minute you're baptized and then they'll start attacking you and making your life a living hell. The only thing that matters is what you believe in your heart. If you love the bible, God, and do your best to be good to others - why do you need to be affiliated with a religion that claims to do all that on the outside, but on the inside is nothing but a cess pool of lies, gossip and back stabbing? Don't go there man... By the sounds of it they've already tried conditioning you to submit to their guilt trip tactics. Beleive what you want to believe. Don't let them tell you their interpretations. They will screw you up real bad. Good luck with it though. I don't know your circumstances of what you want from them, but if it's what you want, go for it and give it your best shot. Go to the meetings if they make you feel better, but don't let them trap you. Regardless of whatever else they say, it comes down to your personal relationship with Jehovah. He sees everything and understands why people do what they do. I don't believe you need a label with a religion to have a connection with your maker. That's just me though. I'll never forget the hell they put me through, and if wasn't from one congregation either but quite a few. They are just hungry for new numbers and then when you walk away from it they like to click their tongues and say 'tut tut, so many are leaving the faith' but they never stop to ask themselves why?
Mafia-like chasing.... you got that right - and you haven't done anything wrong! Wait until you do something wrong. You'll really know the meaning of the Mafia-like chasing... It's psycho!